That leaves only Shalltear who is strong enough to give Momon the adamentine rank. Sebas Tian (Overlord - Maruyama Kugane) Summary In this version, There was no Momonga, in this world, Susuki Satoru, was born a "SHE", making the history of Ainz Ooal Gown, more different and more impactful in the world of YGGDRASIL. I think betrayal has to come indirectly; like by Albedo killing Pandora's Actor to keep a secret. That makes no sense. We saw that she hated them all for abandoning them but was her anger really that severe that she wants to kill them? However, in the manga his beard is longer, his shoulders are not as broad, and his face is also older. Except albedo probably. OVERLORD SEASON 2 (2018) (9.0/10) Menu. ... note to self, google "Shalltear gimp suit" later. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. By: Hero600. Betraying Ainz directly? Brain could fight a vampire bride. Join the online community, create your anime and manga list, read reviews, explore the forums, follow news, and so much more! Ains meets with Sebas and Tuare once more and asks them what they wish. Sebas finally understood the sting of betrayal that haunted many of Nazarick’s denizens. They will know that Momon failed to kill the vampire. Brain did not come into contact with other vampires only Shalltear and a vampire bride. Wait why Pestonya? Yes, they were all abandoned by those who gave them life. (Topic ID: 1708276) The Slain theocracy already had suspicions about Momon being a "bad guy". Unlikely. As I was rewatching the anime, I noticed that in episode 10 Sebas tells about Brain Unglaus to Shalltear. Eclair has an appearance of a Rockhopper penguin, with blond hair. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Seem's Albedo is a more likely culprit than I had thought! Well this is my personal opinion that Brain will have a big part in taking down Nazarick party. Initially Ainz doesn't want to go back, but then he considers the possibility of mailing his friends and then bringing them to this world. Just spit-balling, what do you guys think? Sebas's hair is entirely white, just like his immaculate beard. If he was to reveal his true form (dragon) in combat, Sebas can even overwhelm Albedo and Cocytus. Albedo did assault him out of lust in the LN, and had to be pulled off him and confined to her room for a time, so that might count. Brain is the only one who knows of this inconsistency, and he has no evidence to prove Shalltear is still alive. Touch Me is the creator of Sebas and like all other created NPC, Sebas is extremely loyal to his creator. At the very end of Season 2, Episode 10 of Overlord, Albedo is spending time with her Ainz dolls, when Ainz orders her to prepare for a raid to save a human. can you refresh me on Solution's jealousy and Demiurge's self sacrifice? One of the members were knocked out and her body began to slump to the ground. If you mean betray as in betray his stated interests, Sebas (as we saw). Sometimes, he is depicted with one of his eyes colored black (likely depicting his bloodlust). He killed a vampire named 'Honyopenyoko', in the public eye. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Meanwhile, Ainz is worried about managing the Lizardmen and Sebas's possible betrayal. But over all it showed me that Sebas wasn't betraying us he was taking a page out of my Oniichan book and I now for a fact it he was here he be patting Sebas on the back. It’s highly unlikely anyone would believe him, since once again; he has no evidence that Shalltear is still alive. The NPCs such as Albedo and Sebas etc seem completely loyal to Ainz as the supreme being and Nazerick because … A sort of betrayal born out of psychotic love. I don’t know why OP mentioned Sebas telling Shalltear about Brain, that part isn't relevant. Read the topic about Overlord II Episode 7 Discussion on MyAnimeList, and join in the discussion on the largest online anime and manga database in the world! Demiurge may suspect mental manipulation and detain him. This can compromise Momon. According to Ainz Ooal Gown, Sebas is c… Anime/Manga Overlord/オーバーロード. And then, he looked powerlessly at the ground. Ainz (well, Momon) specifically said he was hunting 2 vampires. ( I know they wont win but he will most likely join the "Heroes" to destroy Nazarick). (or even that they work together). (he already knew about him before they met in the alley) Thanks to this Brain knows that Shalltear and Jalbadoth are in the same group. If Ainz were to start spouting nonsense about being some Japanese salaryman and not a godlike being. and Brain hasn't told anyone in Nazarick that he knew Shaltear and he thinks that Jaldabaoth and Shaltear are connected Sebas has no reason to randomly kill Brain when he doesn't actually know that he is a potential liability, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. Momon lied about multiple dangerous vampires and Brain was in direct contact with the vampires. Tuare having finished telling me her story was just now looking at me as if she was waiting for me to pull the trigger. But what is the guild to them compared to the god they already have? There was knocking, and then the door opened. As a melee fighter, Sebas Tian is someone who excelled in unarmed hand-to-hand, close combat. That seems out of left field for me lol, Everyone talking about Sebas here, but I think the word “betray” should be defined a little more. The series was produced by Madhouse under the direction of Naoyuki Itō, script composition by Yukie Sugawara, and music composed by Shūji Katayama. Follow/Fav Albedo's Betrayal. Brain tried to contact Momon about the vampire he fought. Additionally, I'm not sure how Sebas is behind this? This time it was a success. While it has yet to be seen, Sebas's true form is said to be that of a dragon. 11 (manga) After undergoing an intense interrogation, Sebas is faced with a difficult decision-maintain his loyalty to his master or stay by Tsuare's side. So I think Momon's status is relatively safe atm c: How does Sebas telling Shalltear about Brain make Brain able to tell that Jalbadoth is on Shalltear's side? Demiurge (Overlord - Maruyama Kugane) (155) Albedo (Overlord - Maruyama Kugane) (144) Shalltear Bloodfallen (119) Mare Bello Fiore (91) Aura Bella Fiora (90) Cocytus (Overlord - Maruyama Kugane) (82) Sebas Tian (Overlord - Maruyama Kugane) (73) Original Characters (61) Original Female Character(s) (50) Include Relationships And if Albedo ends up going with Demiurge's logic (mentioned when Ainz went to fight Shalltear) that the Guardians and NPCs must protect their creators (and their interests) no matter what, even if they are reprimanded afterwards, she might even get a chunk of the residents of Nazarick to go along with her plans. Everything and anything Demi does is for Ainz. The whole NPC idea was used by Maruyama specifically for the purpose of having absolute, unquestionable loyalty. The public is far more likely to side with their hero than they are with Brain. Directed by Kim Min Sun, Naoyuki Itô. Still it is a critical information for possible future enemies, that Momon Shallter and Jalbadoth are all connected. Ah but Momon did not kill 'Shalltear Bloodfallen'. Overlord, Vol. It was also stated that if he had to pledge his loyalty to only one among the Forty-One Supreme Beings, Sebas would choose Touch Me without hesitation. Sebas is considered as one of the four strongest warriors (Cocytus, Albedo, and Rubedo) within the Great Tomb of Nazarick. Tuare asks to become a maid at Nazarick. Lets say for example that they actually find a way for Ainz to go back- some kind of unfinished portal left behind by some players or something like that, which they have the Nazarick-specific materials for. Wait is she actually plotting to kill them? Later on, he appears to have taken on the appearance of a true monstrous demon, though in reality, this is one of his subordinates, Wrath. He warns Sebas that he will have one day to return the girl to Succulent. Meanwhile, Ainz is worried about managing the Lizardmen and Sebas's possible betrayal. The only one that would even show a hint of betrayal would be Eclair the penguin butler, but he was created as a joke character who wants to rule Nazarick. Wearing a British suit with a tie, he is dressed like a gentleman. It wouldn't even need to be functional, it could just be a complete and utter pipe dream from the start- just the very idea of such a thing could be enough to spark a conflict. About 1.8 meters tall, Demiurge is a demon with dark skin and nicely combed black hair. They forget about Nazarick and carry on with their lives, unaware of the consequences. Stafan holds Sebas as guilty for the thief despite the circumstances of the girl’s condition at the time. Thus, if anybody sees Shalltear, they'll probably think "Hey! Seeing as how he's the most intelligent and evil being in Nazarick after Ainz. While it is a hole in his story, I don’t believe it’s enough to compromise Momon. Other than him everyone is completely loyal. Brain actually already fell for this, in volume 9 he talks about wanting to go with Gazef to talk to Momon about Shalltear. Last edited by Ambugaton; Mar 29, 2018 @ 4:48pm If you mean betray as in betray his stated interests, Sebas (as we saw). Renner meets with the Blue Rose, then Marquis Raeven, to consult with them about her … The most possible one, would be Rubedo. Overlord is a Japanese anime television series based on the light novel series of the same name written by Kugane Maruyama and illustrated by so-bin. I hope everything is looking good! Do you mean the other guardians? The Blue Rose adventurer group makes plans to investigate and learn about Nazarick. Demiurge always seems to be the go to person in this scenario but I actually think Albeddo might be the one to do it. The first 3 for making decisions based on their morals, the forth for jealousy and the last for self sacrifice. If you mean betray as in betray his actual interests (in terms of humane treatment of people when not directly commanded) definitely Demiurge. In what sense do you think she will betray the guild? (Sasuga). If you mean betray as in betray his actual interests (in terms of humane treatment of people when not directly commanded) definitely Demiurge. After the transfer of Nazarick to the New World, he h… no because Shaltear lost her memories after being res'd and her vampire brides died no one in Nazarick knows that Shaltear had run into Brain. There are some like Albedo, who will betray the guild. The reason is I think that she will just go insane with the fear that Ainz will leave her or go insane with the lust she feels with no reciprocation and she'll just snap. Thankfully, a rare glimmer of Ainz's benevolence grants Sebas the privilege of doing both! Either Sebas decided to help Brain or it is simply a hole in the story. With Satoshi Hino, Shigeru Chiba, Manami Numakura, Ayane Sakura. Previous weeks discussions: Episode 6, Episode 7, Episode 8 Episode 9 Welcome to episode 10's source material discussion post, where I mention all the interesting little tidbits of source material that were cut, skimmed over, or changed, as well as providing more context to the various scenes. Under his alias, Jaldabaoth, he wears a dark mask and grows a set of sharp claws. Sebas’ gaze moved to Demiurge, who was observing him. When he shapeshifts, he gains more of a monstrous form with his eyes taking on more of a demonic look and grows a large pair of wings. But, he didn’t stop. With the servers of Yggdrasil shutting down, the members of Ainz Ooal Gown leave the game one by one. Albedo's Betrayal Albedo is absolutely loyal to Ainz, however as we know loyalty can express itself in ways that may even lead people to acting against their master's direct orders at times. This can compromise Momon. I can pretty much guarantee this has been done already and if so my apologies, but I was just curious what other's think. The series was produced by Madhouse under the direction of Naoyuki Itō, script composition by Yukie Sugawara, and music composed by Shūji Katayama. (there is no higher rank, he would get it if there was). Nazarick NPCs characters Floor Guardians. Overlord - How really loyal are the NPCs to Ainz? Cookies help us deliver our Services. Sebas betrayed Nazarick again As I was rewatching the anime, I noticed that in episode 10 Sebas tells about Brain Unglaus to Shalltear. It would surprise me if an overlord can betray you, and I've never seen it happen... wouldn't fit with "RP logic" To me that would mean you lose the fort. ... Sebas … ... As Sebas fights Six Arms, Demiurge attacks Re-Estize to hide the retaliation against Eight Fingers amidst a demonic incursion. Pestonya, Nigredo, Sebas, Solution and Demiurge all already went against Ainz direct orders. He has white hair and wrinkles around his face. But anyway, Brain does know that Shalltear and Jaldabaoth are on the same side, since he encountered Shalltear during the Demon Invasion and recognized her. Set after the events of volume 14. No,they don't cuz Momon mentioned there 2 vampire whom he hunt. Ains calls on Sebas to answer for his actions, and to discuss what is to become of Tuare. Overlord : The Demon Empress PauThide. Sebas put his own moral impulses over Ainz's orders, so that is arguably a rebellion. Ainz did mention that he should make contingencies for Ainz's death and warns that he could be controlled by the world item that charmed Shalltear, so a contingency for this event isn't that insane. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Brain just assumes Shalltear is the other vampire Momon is hunting. Behind the round glasses are eyes so squinted that they are not normally visible. He's never mentioned Shalltear to anyone, and Brain's interactions with her have all been circumstantial. Sure, she learned to deal with that but you never know... unless she decides to start wearing a gimp suit. Thus, Momon should not be compromised by Brain’s knowledge. He has visible wrinkles on his hollow face, which makes him seem gentle in appearance, but his eyes are as sharp as an eagle's. Then to Ainz. Sebas in general has the appearance of an elderly man, dressed in a butler uniform. As expected., there were two women there. Chapter 21: Suzuki Satoru or The Demon Empress Chapter Text. Though he does not have any magical abilities, he can heal a target using Ki. Area Guardians. Ainz doesn't seem particularly concerned with treating humans humanely compared to your average human. Demiurge is smart and evil, but completely loyal imo. Right, if there is anyone who speaks german in here, I am deeply sorry for butchering your holy language, I hope it is not that bad. But we don't know enough about them to accurately guess that. They were Solution and Tsuare. “I have brought her.” Sebas had his back to Tsuare, but he could hear her gasp from the entrance. This is a good point. Anime and Manga - Other Titles This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Sebas Tian has the appearance of an elderly butler and he is dressed gracefully in his traditional black uniform. (he already knew about him before they met in the alley) Thanks to this Brain knows that Shalltear and Jalbadoth are in the same group. Ains provides Sebas with two options regarding Tuare's future, to erase her memories and let her go or to bring her to Nazarick. If you mean betray as in run wild irrespective of orders, Shalltear because of … By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Eclair moves in shuffling steps, so he is always carried by another servantwhen he wants to get around. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Cookies help us deliver our Services. He offers clemency, but it is merely more extortion of money. They will know that Momon failed to kill the vampire. So I would think “betray” should be defined as after receiving knowledge (or similar) from the NW, they decide to do something against Ainz (guild or person). S2, Ep11 20 Mar. Like Sebas for example: he saved Tsuare because you can argue he was programmed like that (because the NPCs somewhat act like their creators. Or Albedo could go full Yandere and become hyperfocused on "Momonga" and decide that she needs his FULL attention. Demiurge (Overlord - Maruyama Kugane) (150) Albedo (Overlord - Maruyama Kugane) (138) Shalltear Bloodfallen (116) Mare Bello Fiore (90) Aura Bella Fiora (88) Cocytus (Overlord - Maruyama Kugane) (81) Sebas Tian (Overlord - Maruyama Kugane) (72) Original Characters (60) Original Female Character(s) (49) Include Relationships Renner meets with the Blue Rose, then Marquis Raeven, to consult with them about her planned attacks against Eight Fingers. Behind his back is a silver tail, covered with metal plates and six long spikes at the end.Demiurge's pair of eyes lack eyeballs, in fact, shining jewels with numerous small cuts take the place of his eyeballs. If you mean betray as in run wild irrespective of orders, Shalltear because of her Blood Frenzy. Follow/Fav Betrayal. Meanwhile, Momon is a famous and beloved hero; his reputation is very good. Pleiades. Thinking it all over I made my choice. Ains calls on Sebas to answer for his actions, and to discuss what is to become of Tuare. 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